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Mr. BARRASSO. I thank the Senator very much.
I agree exactly with what the Senator has said because my experience has been very similar. I served 5 years in the State senate in Wyoming, and before that I was a physician practicing in Wyoming, taking care of so many families.
Just this Monday I was at the Wyoming Medical Center, the largest hospital in our State. It is a hospital where I have previously been chief of staff. What I hear from the people of Wyoming is, I am sure, what the Senator has heard from the people at home in Mississippi.
They say: Why don't you just stop and start over? It is not just the people from our States. In a recent CNN poll, 50 percent of all Americans say it is time to stop and start over. We do need health care reform, but we don't need this 2,700-page bill with all of the unintended consequences that may come with it, all of the new government boards and commissions, a program that cuts $500 billion from our seniors who depend upon Medicare for their health care, and raises taxes by another $500 billion.
The American people are saying stop and start over. They know we have good ideas. They listened to that summit last week that I was able to attend at the White House, and they have heard Republicans say to let people buy insurance across State lines. That will help 12 million more people get insurance today. They say let's deal with lawsuit abuse. That will help cut down the cost of these unnecessary tests which are done as defensive medicine.
The American people understand the value of allowing small businesses to join to help more effectively get down the cost of care. That is why half of all Americans say stop and start over. One in four say just stop. Only one in four Americans say, yes; pass the bill. So three and four do not want what the President seems to be wanting to shove through Congress and shove down the throats of the American people. The American people are incensed. That is what I heard in Wyoming this weekend, and I am sure that is what my colleague from Mississippi heard as well.
So the President made his speech yesterday, which seemed to be a new sales pitch, but it is for the same bill. It is why so many folks have said stop, start over, focus on ideas that we know will work. Give individuals as patients, as citizens, rights to make more choices that affect their own lives. Give them those opportunities. We don't need a government bureaucrat standing between the doctor and a patient. We don't need a government bureaucrat. We don't need an insurance bureaucrat.
I see my colleague, Senator Coburn, is on the Senate floor, another physician who has, as have I, fought against government bureaucrats and insurance company bureaucrats all for our patients because we need a patient-centered health care program, and we need health care reform, but we do not need this massive bill.
I also see my colleague from Florida has joined us. He knows we have positive ideas that will make a difference because we need to be focused also on the cost of care. People like the quality of care they are getting. They like the fact it is available. But the cost is what is affecting us. That is why Warren Buffett just on Monday has said we need to focus on cost. They need to take 2,000 pages of nonsense out of the bill and focus on getting the costs under control. And so many of the ideas that the Republicans have brought forth have focused specifically on that.
So I would ask my colleague from Florida, are there things he has heard as he has visited with his constituents and the people in his State that he might wish to add to this discussion right now?
Mr. LeMIEUX. I appreciate my colleague, Dr. Barrasso, for referring that question to me.
Certainly, the people of Florida are concerned about this bill. They want their costs to go down. They thought the whole reason we were doing this health care bill was to address the skyrocketing costs of health care, which have gone up 130 percent on average over the past 10 years. But what we find out with this bill is not only does it not lower the cost of health insurance for Americans, some Americans are going to have to pay more.
So why would we undertake this huge enterprise of creating a $1 trillion new program, multitrillion dollars over time, a program that cuts $ 1/2 trillion out of health care for seniors, and raises taxes by $ 1/2 trillion, why would we undertake all of that if we weren't going to reduce the cost of health insurance for most Americans? That is what they think we are doing. They don't think we are creating some brand new entitlement program. They don't want us to do that. They want us to lower the costs.
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Mr. BARRASSO. If I may, one of the phrases the Senator used about using reconciliation was ``hijacking,'' hijacking the system, hijacking the way this works. That specific word was used by then-Senator Barack Obama when he was a Senator and very much opposed to this approach.
One of the other things he has said, when we talk about the $500 billion being cut from our seniors on Medicare, he talks about a program called Medicare Advantage. That is only a part of the area that is involved. For people on Medicare Advantage--and there are about 10 million of them--they know they are on it, and they like the program. There are some advantages. One is it actually works to help coordinate care. It works with preventive care. Those are things that are very important. But there are also cuts in Medicare for nursing homes, for payments to doctors, for home health care, which is a lifeline for people, for hospice care, for care at the end of someone's life. That is all going to get cut under these $500 billion of Medicare cuts.
Mr. COBURN. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. BARRASSO. Absolutely.
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Mr. BARRASSO. Well, it would have affected me in several ways. It would have affected my life in that my wife Bobbi is a breast cancer survivor. She had a screening mammogram when she was in her forties--something this Task Force on Preventive Services says was unnecessary. If it hadn't been for that screening mammogram, her cancer would not have been detected. And by having the screening mammogram, which the American Cancer Society and others recommend for women in this country, and following the guidelines of the cancer society as opposed to this new government-mandated guideline, her cancer was detected. She has had three operations, several bouts of chemotherapy, and is alive today, a breast cancer survivor, 6 years later, because she did what scientists and what those who know what is best for patients recommended as opposed to what a government panel might have recommended trying to focus on their cost-effectiveness.
Mr. McCAIN. So a patient comes to you with a certain orthopedic requirement that requires a certain level of treatment, and what does that do to you as a physician, as well as the patient?
Mr. BARRASSO. It puts the government between you and your patient, which is what you never want to have happen. As Dr. Coburn said, that is the wrong approach. It is not the way medicine has ever been practiced in America. It is not the way patients want it; it is not the way doctors want it. We don't want bureaucrats, whether government or insurance company bureaucrats, between doctors and patients.
As we saw at the health care summit on Thursday of last week, the President kept talking about covering people, health coverage, but he wants to put 15 million more people on Medicaid--a program where half the doctors don't see them because the government pays so little; a program where the Mayo Clinic, which the President has held up as a model for health care in America, says: We can't continue to see Medicaid patients from a number of States because we lose too much money. And now they have said the same with regard to Medicare. So when they are talking about $500 billion of cuts to Medicare, the Mayo Clinic, on January 1, said they can't handle additional Medicare patients because last year they lost, they said, $800 million by taking care of Medicare patients because the government pays so little.
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Mr. BARRASSO. Madam President, if I could, several things. There is a wonderful Paul Ryan op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal, and I would recommend it to anyone to look at that because he specifically points out that the President's own chief Medicare actuary says the Senate and House bills are bending the cost curve up, making the costs go up, which is what you hear if you go to a town meeting in Arizona or in Wyoming. When you ask people: If this bill passes, will the cost of your own care go up, the hands go up. When you say: Well, how about the quality; will the quality of your care go down? Again, the hands go up. So that is a continual concern of people all across America, which is why three-quarters of Americans have told CNN it is time to either just completely stop or stop and start over and only one-quarter of Americans support this proposal, because they realize this is going to do that.
The Senator from Arizona mentioned, and it was interesting, the 11 pages from the President. The gimmicks are still there. They may have taken out one of the gimmicks, but the spending gimmicks are there, plus the Louisiana purchase, the special carve-out for 800,000 people in Florida who are on Medicare Advantage. They are protected, but there are another 10 million Americans who will lose their Medicare Advantage.
Then the question came up of what we refer to as the ``doc fix.'' The way the numbers are moved around----
Mr. McCAIN. For the benefit of our colleagues, could the Senator explain exactly what the doc fix means and how we got to it?
Mr. BARRASSO. Right now--and we just passed a 1-month extension the other night--Medicare is supposed to cut the fees for all doctors across the country by 21 percent. Seniors know Medicare underpays right now. As one of my colleagues in the State senate in Wyoming used to say, government is the biggest deadbeat payer because they do not even pay enough to cover the cost of the care that is delivered in our hospitals. With ambulances, they do not cover enough to pay for the gas to fill up the ambulances to go the long distances we have in Arizona or in Wyoming.
But right now, to deal with some promises that were made years ago, the fees for physicians should be cut 21 percent, according to Medicare. A number of years ago, they were supposed to cut it by 1 or 2 percent, and they said: Well, we will not cut it, but next year we will cut it by 4 percent and then next year 8 percent and then 10 percent. Well, now they have continued to kick the can down the road enough so that this year they are supposed to cut the fees for physicians by 21 percent.
Mr. McCAIN. Which could not happen.
Mr. BARRASSO. It could not. According to the President's budget numbers and the way this bill is written and the financial gimmickry, they want to cut physician fees for Medicare by 21 percent and keep them frozen for the next 10 years. So it is cut and freeze for 10 years, and they use that as one of the additional financial gimmicks.
Well, if you do that to the doctors in the country, who are already reluctant to see Medicare patients because the payment is so low--the Mayo Clinic said they are not going to see new Medicare patients because the reimbursement at today's rates is so low--if you drop them 21 percent additionally at a time when the Congressional Budget Office says one-fifth of the hospitals and one-fifth of the doctors' offices in this country will be unable to continue to be solvent 10 years from now if this bill goes into place--we know without a question that we cannot allow that to happen. Congress knows that, the doctors know that, the American people know it. Everybody knows it except, apparently, the people writing the health care bill, who say: Oh, this is actually going to save money in the long run. When people look at this in an honest way, they know this is going to drive up the cost of care and make the quality of care for our American citizens go down.
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Mr. BARRASSO. Mr. President, I rise today because the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works will soon be meeting to discuss the nomination of Mr. Arthur Elkins to be the inspector general at the Environmental Protection Agency. I support Mr. Elkins moving out of committee, and to date he has truthfully answered all the questions I posed to him. Before the full Senate votes, I do have some additional questions based on a report I am releasing today.
As ranking member of the Subcommittee on Oversight in the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, I care a great deal about ensuring oversight over the agencies within our jurisdiction, the most important of which is the EPA. Over the last few months, the minority on the subcommittee has compiled a report. The report is entitled ``The Status of Oversight: A Year of Lost Oversight.'' This report details the severe lack of oversight by the majority of the committee and the administration.
When the majority created the Subcommittee on Oversight, it was stated that they planned ``to use the subcommittee to explore ways to restore scientific integrity in the EPA, and other Federal agencies focused on the environment, and to strengthen environmental protections by once again making the regulatory process more transparent.'' I agree. One year later, as my report details, there have only been two subcommittee hearings, and, as the report concludes, ``The result of this is that the majority has let a year go by where they have failed to pursue their stated goals.''
Over the last year, my colleagues and I have requested a series of investigations and hearings into key matters related to whistleblowers being silenced, data being manipulated, and shadow czars holding meetings where nothing is put into writing to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests. We have asked for these hearings and investigations because we believe the public needs to have trust in their government.
At the beginning of this administration, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson herself stated unequivocally: ``The success of our environmental efforts depends on our earning and maintaining the trust of the public we serve.''
As this report demonstrates, this administration and the majority have shown little interest in pursuing these matters. Let me read to you the findings and recommendations of the report: In 2009, the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee majority chose not to conduct oversight over the relevant agencies within the executive branch. The lack of any oversight over the activities of the Federal agencies weakens the system of checks and balances and invites the potential for larger abuses. Action must be taken to investigate oversight issues from the last year, and further coordination within the committee regarding the oversight jurisdiction and responsibility is needed.
I believe that finally receiving a nominee for inspector general at EPA gives the public another opportunity to get to the truth about the issues raised in this report.
In his answers to my questions to date, Mr. Elkins has signaled that he is absolutely willing to chart a new course from where this administration and the majority have taken us.
When I asked: Do you believe it is the responsibility of the EPA inspector general to investigate instances where whistleblowers are silenced by their superiors at the Agency, he said yes.
When I asked: Will you pursue those instances, he said yes.
When I asked: Do you believe it is the responsibility of the EPA inspector general to investigate and report instances where scientific procedures at EPA are circumvented, he said yes.
When I asked: Will you investigate instances where agency employees are smeared publicly in the press by higher-ups in an agency or in the administration simply for providing their best advice and counsel, he said yes.
All of these things are not hypotheticals; they all occurred over the last year. My colleagues and I in the minority have asked for investigations into each of these instances by the majority and the administration. The response we have received each time has been a resounding no.
If the administration and the majority refuse to provide proper oversight, then someone else has to. That is why I plan to share this oversight report with Mr. Elkins, the nominee to be inspector general at the EPA. Before a floor vote, I will seek confirmation that he will give the matters I raise in this report due consideration. I am confident based on his response so far that he will answer in the affirmative. If so, we will have the sea change at the EPA that will restore the public's confidence in that Agency.
I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
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