HEALTH CARE REFORM -- (Senate - October 28, 2009)
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Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I appreciate the comments of my colleague from Arizona and before him my colleague from New Hampshire in pointing out what happens when you deal with a Federal Government insurance company. If you want to call it Federal Government, Inc., whatever you want to call it, what you are essentially talking about when the Federal Government takes greater control of any part of our economy but certainly one-sixth of our economy with health care, which is what health care represents--$1 in every $6 of our economy is spent on health care in this country--what you typically get is fewer choices and higher costs. That is certainly the case here because you are going to see fewer choices.
I think most Americans realize that if the Federal Government has more control, more intervention, more involvement in health care in this country, it is going to ratchet down the availability of choice and there will be fewer freedoms for people in this country because the Federal Government is going to start saying what has to be in a certain health care policy. It is going to start getting in the way of that fundamental relationship between physicians and their patients. You are going to have more and more governmental intervention, and that ultimately is something I think most Americans have great reservations and great apprehension about.
In fact, if you look at the bills, the various bills that are before the Congress today--and there are three that have been reported out in the House, two now in the Senate--they vary a little bit in terms of particulars, but they are consistent in terms of their overall themes. They are all going to raise taxes. They are going to raise taxes not just on the rich, not just on people with high incomes, they are going to raise taxes on ordinary Americans. All the studies bear that out. The Congressional Budget Office says that. The Joint Tax Committee says that. They are going to cut Medicare for seniors, particularly those who have Medicare Advantage. So Medicare benefits are going to be slashed if this bill becomes law. And they are going to all lead to higher premiums. That is the remarkable thing about this legislation. All these bills that are before Congress right now, which propose to control costs and to lower costs for people in this country, all lead to the same result; that is, higher costs for health care in the form of higher premiums.
I want to point out something in the bill the Finance Committee produced.
By the way, they are still merging these bills behind closed doors. There are a handful of people who are writing this bill. Contrary to the assertions of the President last year when he was campaigning that this was going to be on C-SPAN, it was going to be a wide-open process, and the American public was going to be able to participate and engage in this, this is all occurring behind closed doors. The specifics of this legislation are being written right now and probably will end up being hundreds of pages, perhaps even thousands of pages. But they all come back to the basic characteristics I mentioned earlier: higher taxes, Medicare cuts, and higher premiums for Americans.
What is interesting about this chart I have in the Chamber is there are Americans who will be put into an exchange who would be able to get some subsidies to help purchase insurance. Obviously, there are a lot of people in this country who do not have access to insurance today, and that is what we all--Members on both sides in the Senate--want to address: How do we provide more Americans access to affordable health care in this country? So there are some who get subsidies and who would be able to buy insurance through an exchange. That is about 18 million Americans. But if you are among the 185 million Americans who currently have health insurance, you will pay higher taxes and your premiums will end up going up.
What is ironic about this is 18 million Americans will get subsidies through these exchanges, but there are still 25 million Americans under the Finance Committee bill who will not have insurance when this is all said and done. So you actually have more people without insurance than would actually get subsidies under this plan that is being proposed by the Finance Committee, financed by the 185 million people who are going to pay higher taxes and also who are going to see their premiums go up. Now, I am not saying that. That is what the Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Tax Committee have said. That is what every independent study that has looked at this has said.
By the way, last week there was an analysis that came out, done by the Actuary at the Department of Health and Human Services here in Washington, DC, that said overall spending on health care under this proposal--and when I say ``this,'' I am talking about the House proposal. Again, they are very similar in their characteristics, and in some of the particulars they differ. But in the House proposal, it would go up by 2.1 percent. If you remember, today we spend about $1 in every $6 in our economy on health care. At the end of the 10-year period, according to the Actuary at the Department of Health and Human Services, we are going to be spending more than $1 in every $5. So 21.3 percent of every $1 in our economy is going to go to health care because under these proposals, health care costs are going to go up over and above the rate of inflation. In other words, if we do nothing today, you are going to have normal inflationary health care costs, which are going to increase the cost of health care. Enacting this legislation would increase the cost of health care 2.1 percent above that, or $750 billion over 10 years. That is what the Actuary at the Health and Human Services Department said--$750 billion in spending on health care above and beyond what would be normal if we did nothing with health care inflation in this country. So it would add 2.1 percent to the
amount we spend as a percentage of our GDP, to where 21.3 percent of our entire economy would be spent on health care.
So you have health care costs going up, you have taxes going up, according to the Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Tax Committee, on people who are making less than $200,000 a year. And even half of the tax burden, over 50 percent, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, would be borne by those who make less than $100,000 a year.
The amazing thing about this, from the analysis that has been done, is that someone who is making 150 percent of the poverty level, which is $32,200 a year, because of the way the provisions in this bill would interact, would actually end up with an effective marginal tax rate of 59 percent--a 59-percent tax rate--because they would lose subsidies as they make more money. So the incentive for someone in a lower income category to make more money is going to go away because with every dollar they make, their effective marginal tax rate is going to go up. It would be 59 percent for someone making $32,200 in this country today. That is for people whose income is 150 percent of the poverty level.
So to suggest for a minute these tax increases and these tax policies and the way this bill is financed are not going to impact average Americans, working-class Americans, is absolutely wrong. It is false. That is what the Joint Tax Committee and the Congressional Budget Office have said.
But probably the worst thing: If you are one of these 185 million Americans, as shown right here, who are paying the burden in the form of higher taxes, you are going to see, at the end of all this, that after all the promises that we are going to get costs under control, your health care costs are going to go up and your taxes are going to go up. If you are a senior citizen, your Medicare benefits go down. And guess what. Your health care costs, your insurance premiums are going to go up. That is what has been said consistently.
Doug Elmendorf, the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, said:
Our judgment is that piece of the legislation would raise insurance premiums.
He goes on to say:
Those projected premium amounts include the effect of the fees that would be imposed under the proposal on manufacturers and importers of brand name drugs and medical devices, on health insurance providers, and on clinical laboratories. Those fees would increase costs for the affected firms, which would be passed on to purchasers and ultimately would raise insurance fees by a corresponding amount.
That is a direct quote from the Congressional Budget Officer Director, Doug Elmendorf.
He also said, when asked the question about, Would these taxes be passed on in the form of higher premium, that roughly dollar for dollar they would be passed on in the form of higher premiums.
Some of the independent studies that have been done out there suggest that if you are buying in the individual market as an individual, you are going to see up to a 73-percent increase in your health insurance premiums; if you are a small business, up to a 20-percent increase. The studies vary. I have looked at my State. They break it down, some of these analyses, State by State. In my State of South Dakota, if you are buying in the individual marketplace as an individual, you would see a 49-percent increase. If you are buying in the individual marketplace as a family, you would see a 50-percent increase. If you are someone who is in a small group market, you would see smaller increases but still double-digit increases--14 percent, 15 percent above the normal rate of inflation. In other words, if we do nothing, if we do absolutely nothing, you are going to have normal inflationary increases in health care costs, which I think are hurting a lot of small businesses. But if we do what is being proposed here, it is going to be way worse because the overall cost of health care, according to the Actuary at the Department of Health and Human Services, the overall cost of health care above and beyond the rate of inflation is going to be $750 billion over 10 years or a 2.1-percent increase in overall health care costs. It translates, as I said earlier, into individuals, small businesses, and families paying higher health insurance premiums, higher costs for their health care, higher taxes.
If you are among the 185 million Americans, again, who are not in the exchange, who do not get subsidies, you are going to pay higher taxes and you are going to see your health insurance premiums go up.
There are a lot of people--a total of 282 million people--who are not going to be in the exchange. There are a lot of people who derive their health care through the government: Medicare and Medicaid. So there are a total of about 282 million people in this country who are not going to get subsidies and 18 million who will.
By the way, again, 25 million Americans will still not be covered. There will be more not covered than would be able to get subsidies through these exchanges to buy insurance.
The Democrats are saying: Trust us. They said that on the stimulus. They said unemployment would not go above 8 percent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time is expired.
Mr. THUNE. I will wrap up with this, Mr. President. ``Trust us'' is not enough for the American people. The American people need real, meaningful health care reform that will drive costs down, not up. These proposals drive it up.
I yield the floor.
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