CNN "CNN Newsroom" - TRANSCRIPT Interview with Republican Representative David Joyce of Ohio on Legislative Efforts in 2023; McCarthy Wins on 15th Ballot; Interview with Democratic Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas on McCarthy Win; Democratic Representative Hakeem Jeffries Makes History as First Black Lawmaker to Lead a Party in Congress. Aired 2-3a ET

Interview

REP. DAVID JOYCE (R-OH): I give everyone the opportunity to earn trust. Until they lose that opportunity, until they lose my trust. And I believe that we all come to this with the same belief, that we want to do what is in the best interest of our country.

We love our country. We just might happen to see how we go about the resolution to issues in a different way. The first thing we have to do is put those things aside and sit down and talk about those things we can agree upon.

And then you will find out that the things you disagree upon are not insurmountable and that we can finally get to resolutions and get to yes.

DANA BASH, CNN ANCHOR: The first test is was electing a speaker. And that proved to be quite difficult. But I'm glad you can laugh about it now.

The next one is a rules package, which is, for people who are out there wondering what that means, it is a package that dictates how the Congress, the House in particular, is going to run for the next couple of years. And it is not clear whether or not even that will pass.

What do you think?

JOYCE: A lot of people are coming into this and grumbling, well, the people who are negotiating got everything. Kevin has given away the store. But it has to be part of a process with other members.

They're working with my group, Republican governors' group, and explaining along the way what was taking taken place.

There's nothing in this package that really hurts us because, unfortunately -- and I've seen it since my time here -- too much power has been put in leadership, put in the speaker's job and taken away from the floor, taken away from the committees.

And that is what they wanted. And that is what we are getting, it's back to the idea that, if we are going to do things, we are going to have committee chairs and committee people working on these hearings, putting together bills, passing their bills in committee, moving them through the amendment process, the old regular order.

As you can appreciate, Dana, and then actually getting the floor, a secondary amendment process, for those not on the committee -- and then vote them up or down. Let all 435 of us vote on whether we think it's a good amendment or a bad amendment. And then we'll have buy-in from both sides.

I think that's part of the process. At least, it's necessary to heal the House because (INAUDIBLE) Democrats and Republicans is that (INAUDIBLE) speaker's office and (INAUDIBLE) at the last minute with no ability to look into them or to oversee what has taken place.

And so, that has been a problem. And hopefully, this will be part of the cure in our rules package, to fix those problems.

BASH: Did you use the word mature?

JOYCE: Pardon?

BASH: I just thought you use the word mature which, I think --

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: -- a generous term for what we have seen. Thank you for your time at this very early hour, at 2 am East Coast time. We appreciate it. Congratulations, again, on your being sworn in and for getting through this week.

JOYCE: Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to talk to you.

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