Fox News "Hannity" - Transcript: Interview with Jim Jordan
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Here with more, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, along with FOX News contributor, Ari Fleischer.
All right. Jim, simple thing -- American citizens, passports, mandatory vaccinations, mandatory mask wearing or you can't get anywhere. But you see what's happening at the border. We're going to be at a 25, 30-year record high of illegal immigrants. Nobody's barely even getting tested down there, but dispersed to the entire country.
REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): Yeah, Sean. I don't want to hear anything about COVID cases in Florida, mask mandates in New York, vaccine passports -- I don't want to hear anything about that until the Biden administration deals with the crisis they created on our southern border. There is no other conclusion any rational person can reach other than this is intentional, this is deliberate.
They are deliberately trying to harm our country because March was the highest level on record for illegal crossings until April. April was the highest month until May. May was the highest month until June. June was the highest month until two days ago when we got the July numbers.
That is a bad trend. That is intentional. They are doing what Hillary Clinton said five years ago. They have created a borderless hemisphere.
And the American people need to understand it's deliberate. This is what they're doing and they're trying to shift blame and shift everything else to where it doesn't belong, trying to attack governors who are actually trying to do the right thing for their -- for their constituent, Governor DeSantis and Governor Abbott.
HANNITY: You know, Ari, you're a pretty smart political observer. So, all these draconian measures -- vaccine passports, vaccine mandates, mask mandates for citizens. Nothing -- not even testing for illegal immigrants in record numbers.
Your reaction?
ARI FLEISCHER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: You know, this is the exact kind of thing that the American people see and feel and recognize instantly is just plain wrong, when we have to go through all these hurdles ourselves and then we look and we say, but other people because they came here illegally don't have to get subject to what we're subject to?
This is how voters turn out in record numbers. It just inspires anger because people know the government is doing something they should not be doing.
But, look, on the people coming here, Sean, as you know, I'm a first generation American. My mother is an immigrant to this great country, I want immigrants to come to America. But you have to come here legally.
And this is why the biggest mistake Joe Biden has made was to stop building the wall. It was working. It's common sense, and it still allows people to come here legally because they're coming the right way, and that would have helped us with COVID, too, wanted to have (ph).
HANNITY: And, you know, and again, if you go through the process, I'm not against the immigration either and I don't care where you come from. You know, I think certain things need to be -- I think certainly in light of the pandemic, a health screening. I think we need a background screening, in light of what happened on 9/11, and I think people need to show that they are capable of taking care of themselves financially and not being a burden on the American people -- hardly draconian in my mind.
But, Jim Jordan, this is the reality. Is there any measures that Congress can take to stop the lawlessness?
Now, what's happening down there, not only are they not enforcing the law, they're aiding and betting and further law-breaking. I don't know -- I feel if Sean Hannity did it or Jim Jordan did it or Ari Fleischer did it, we'd probably be in a whole heck of a lot of trouble for picking and choosing what laws we choose to not obey or aid and abet others and breaking the law.
JORDAN: No. I mean, all we can do is talk about. We get -- we can draw to the American people's attention just how bad it is. We can we can say what we all know now to be the case, that this is intentional.
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This is deliberate. This is trying to harm the country. This is creating a borderless hemisphere as I said before.
We can keep talking but frankly, Ari's right. We're going to win back the House and then we can begin to do something. But Joe Biden is the executive branch. He's the one who has to enforce the law of the land and he refuses to do that.
So, the other thing we can do is we can quit listening to Dr. Fauci. He's been wrong on everything. I would say this -- how about we start listening to parents and stop listening to Dr. Fauci? That would help the situation overall in our country as well.
But it is frustrating, but the truth is they are deliberately intentionally doing this.
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