Fox News "The Story with Marth MacCallum" - Transcript Interview with Jim Jordan

Interview

Date: Sept. 14, 2020

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MACCALLUM: Coming up next, Congressman Jim Jordan responds to fired FBI agent Peter Strzok's new claim that despite the Mueller findings, two years of investigation he says no, it's still a fact. Donald Trump is compromised by the Russians. He spoke out about it, now we're going to hear from Jim Jordan when we come back.

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MACCALLUM: Fired FBI agents Peter Strzok who was removed from Robert Mueller's Russia probe because of texts that he wrote now suggests that the whole Mueller team and the $32 million investigation that took two years actually got it wrong. They never do get to the bottom of it despite all of that and the cost of taxpayers that it entails.

Strzok now on the book tour of his new book, you know, a new book that he just released, insisted on Sunday that President Trump was in fact he is the only one fully aware compromised by Russians. Watch this.

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PETER STRZOK, FORMER FBI AGENT: Donald Trump is compromised by the Russians. And when I say that, I mean that they hold leverage over him that makes him incapable of placing the national interest, the national security ahead of his own.

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MACCALLUM: Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan joins me now, ranking Republican on the House judiciary committee. So apparently, Peter Strzok has not been swayed by any of the reports, the investigation that was done by a whole group of attorneys, most of whom had given donations to Hillary Clinton's campaign. So, if they were going to able to find something my guess is that they would have tried their darndest --

REP. JIM JORDAN, R-OH: Right. Right.

MACCALLUM: -- to do just that. But somehow, they missed what Peter Strzok knows.

JORDAN: Yes. Nineteen lawyers, 40 FBI agents, 500 witnesses, 2,800 subpoenas, $30 million in two years and they found nothing. But Peter Strzok. Peter Strzok, the same guy who said didn't worry, Lisa, we'll stop him. The same guy who said I can hear smell the Trump supporters in Walmart.

Suddenly Peter Strzok has got this revelation that somehow the president. This is -- this is ridiculous and the American people understand it.

Plus, never forget, Martha. Peter Strzok was part of this effort to take down Michael Flynn between election day 2016, inauguration day 2017, 49 times, 38 separate people unmasked Michael Flynn's name and Peter Strzok was in that meeting where they were waiting there and set him up.

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MACCALLUM: But he said that was justified, Congressman. He said that's justified because he says Michael Flynn pled guilty.

JORDAN: Come on. Michael Flynn pled guilty because they were threatening his family, threatening his son. We know what -- we know Michael Flynn did nothing wrong. Why are 49 separate occasions? Why are six people at the Treasury Department unmasking Michael Flynn's name? We know why. Because Bill Priestap had the now infamous note where he said what's our goal to get into lie to get into say something, to get him fired, get him to resign so we can charge him with the crime.

They did all of that. Peter Strzok was part of that effort and now he can come back and try to spin all his. I think also interesting that Peter Strzok uses the word compromised. I mean, the guy who sent that number of text messages, I don't know if compromise is the word for him to be using about someone else. So, this is ridiculous. The American people understand what happened here.

MACCALLUM: All right. Let me play -- I want to play another piece from Meet the Press here on the issue of leverage. Watch this.

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STRZOK: I think when you take a look at the Trump financial enterprise, particularly its relation with Russian, with Russian moneys, and potentially those related to organized crime and other elements, that those interactions have placed him in a position where the Russians have leverage over him and are able to influence his actions.

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MACCALLUM: And the follow-up to that should be, what specifically are you talking about?

JORDAN: Right. Right.

MACCALLUM: Where in the reports and why was this missed? What with the -- and the only specific thing that he came -- comes up with him in that interview is he's talks about the Trump tower and he says well, it's clear that he wanted to build this Trump tower.

So that's the reason why, you know, they've got him over a barrel. Now, you know, I mean. All I'm saying is that we, you know, we had a two-year investigation and what he says -- the link that he says that was there, he must think these investigators are awful --

JORDAN: Yes.

MACCALLUM: that they did a lousy, lousy job because they didn't find it but he did.

JORDAN: Well, not -- yes, not only did they, you know, may be awful, I think they were out to get the president from the get-go. They've nor erased their phones. I mean, Shazam. All of them. They all wiped their phones.

So, this is the group that went about trying to take down the president --

MACCALLUM: Unbelievable.

JORDAN: -- they found nothing but somehow Peter Strzok says, there is something there. And it's interesting he doesn't talk anything about the other side. Think about -- think about this, the compromise with the Biden family, with Hunter Biden, and all that issue. So, I just find this ridiculous and again, I think the American people see it for what it is.

MACCALLUM: So, what's going to happen with all these phones? You know, very quickly, what's going to happen with this phone investigation?

JORDAN: I couldn't tell you. Look, I assume Mr. Durham is looking at this issue as well because he's got broader jurisdiction, he's been out for a long time. Let's hope he looks at this concern as well. But, you know, the idea that this just happened, they all -- they did this is just -- I guess beyond belief. But that's the case.

MACCALLUM: Yes. They must have very, very complicated passwords that they can't remember.

JORDAN: Yes.

MACCALLUM: Jim Jordan, thank you very much. More of "The Story" after this. Stay with us.

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MACCALLUM: That is "The Story" of this Monday, September 14, 2020. But as you know the story continues, so we will see you right back here tomorrow night at seven. Have a great night, everybody. Tucker Carlson is up next.

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