Fox News "Justice with Judge Jeanine" - Transcript: Interview with Rep. Jim Jordan

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PIRRO: All right, so was Michael Cohen coached? Sources say he met with Adam Schiff's staff for more than ten hours before the House Oversight Committee hearing.

Congressman Jim Jordan grilled Cohen about it in that hearing and the Congressman joins me now. Good evening, Congressman.

REP. JIM JORDAN, R-OH: Good to be with you, Judge.

PIRRO: You know, normally what happens is you have a witness, you know, whether it's in a courtroom or whether it's before Congress, you get to talk to him. The Party presenting him and then the other side gets to talk to him.

Now, before I even get into the ten-hour thing, did you guys ever talk to Cohen?

JORDAN: No, our staff talked to Lanny Davis, his lawyer. We asked to talk to him, Judge. We asked for a deposition, a transcribed interview.

PIRRO: And what did they say?

JORDAN: They wouldn't do that.

PIRRO: Why?

JORDAN: The Democrats wouldn't do that. They just chose not to. Well, I mean why should they? If you don't have to let one team have a fair shake and you can go meet with him for 10 hours, why would you do that? We didn't know they were doing that, but that's exactly what they did.

We asked for it, they didn't provide it. Here's the big irony though. You would think after 10 hours of coaching, he wouldn't come in front of Congress and lie again, but he did.

PIRRO: I agree.

JORDAN: We think at least eight times and two of them, we know for sure. You know when he said he didn't want to go work at the White House, we know that's a lie and we know that he actively sought a pardon, so that's why Congressman Meadows and I have sent letters to the Justice Department talking about, you know, "Look, this guy perjured himself on the stand and you need to investigate."

PIRRO: Well, but what are the sanctions? Is there a sanction if Adam Schiff and his crew talked to this guy for 10 hours, he doesn't get it and I've prepped the witnesses in my career. I mean, you know you don't need 10 hours. I don't think I've ever spent 10 hours unless it was a kid --

JORDAN: Yes, and Judge, I want to be clear, look you meet with witnesses all the time. That's normal for Congress. I get that. But not like this. Normally the meeting is maybe a half hour, an hour meeting. Here's what you're going to report. We may talk about a few things. It's a shorter meeting, but this was four trips, at least what's been reported, four trips it looks like to New York over ten hours, I've actually seen. That is much more than the normal meeting, "Here's how it's going to work. Here's what the subject matter is going to be."

This is coaching and prepping and frankly, my guess is they not only did that, they probably saw these exhibits. The documents that Mr. Cohen unveiled, my guess is the Democrats saw that long before we did on the morning of the hearing, that's the problem.

PIRRO: What is the sanction? My question is, I'm always asking about consequences. What is this sanction? Is there any sanction? Should he be precluded? Should he have been precluded from testifying because you didn't have access to him?

JORDAN: No, no, the sanction -- remember what happened two years ago? The sanction a couple of years ago was Devon Nunes stepped down as Chairman for a while, so that that was a self-imposed kind of sanction from Chairman, I didn't think he needed to, but he did.

Now it seems like it's a little bit hypocritical that Mr. Schiff who oh, by the way met with Glenn Simpson this summer out in Colorado and now we learned this, it's a little hypocritical, but that's not the same thing.

Of course, that's a call for him and the committee. That's a call for the speaker Pelosi, but it seems a little hypocritical that they demanded Devin do it and now, they're not even talking about that.

PIRRO: Okay, all right, we have like 10 seconds, you know what is really frustrating is that Paul Ryan didn't give you guys the ability to subpoena all those bozos. Shame on him, anyway.

JORDAN: I wish we had pushed harder much sooner, Judge, but we're pushing now.

PIRRO: How could you push harder? He's the leader.

JORDAN: I know, I know, but we still should have. Here is the thing, though they brought their star witness who's going to prison in two months for lying to Congress, they brought him in front of Congress and he lied again.

PIRRO: Oh, what a shock. Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks so much for being with us.

JORDAN: You bet. Thank you.

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