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REP. NANCY PELOSI, D-CALIF., HOUSE SPEAKER: We do have a jail down there in the basement of the Capitol. But if we were arresting all the people in the administration, we would have overcrowded jail situation. And I'm not for that.
REP. LLOYD DOGGETT, D-TEXAS: If we have a lawless attorney general or a lawless secretary of the treasury or some other official, I'm not willing to throw them in jail but I'm ready to do so.
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MACCALLUM: Here now, Congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona, a Republican from Arizona. Serves on that judiciary committee where all of this is going on.
REP. ANDY BIGGS, R-ARIZ.: Hi, Martha.
MACCALLUM: What is your reaction to we have watched play out here?
BIGGS: Well, I was quite frankly shocked. I think it was focused on politics rather than law. I feel like at the last two hearings that we've had with the chicken incident and then today, is to me, it is absolutely incredible that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle admit, basically, that they have a subpoena that was overly broad and not constructed properly and then they want to fix that by fixing their motion to hold them in contempt?
That's just not the way it's done. This move outside the parameters of law and the rules is outrageous, quite frankly.
MACCALLUM: It's pretty shocking that they have not gone into read the more unredacted version of this report. If they did that, perhaps if they were going through everything and they said can you know what, this redaction is a concern to us. We'd like to itemize this, would like to discuss it with you. We would like to have the supporting documents on this, perhaps.
This is Representative Hank Johnson of Georgia. Listen to this.
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REP. HANK JOHNSON, D-GA.: This is all part of a cover-up. And it is up to this committee to ensure that we get that report because we have lawful responsibilities, constitutional responsibilities, to engage in. One of which is possibly impeachment. How can we impeach without getting the documents?
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MACCALLUM: Can you answer that question for him, Congressman?
BIGGS: Well, here's the deal. That's what it's all about. This is all about impeachment and that's what they actually want. You know, the investigation is done, Mr. Mueller has completed it, the report is out there.
And one of the books that they are talking about has 182 pages, only six lines redacted, and yet they want, basically millions of documents. And it's all for impeachment. They don't want Mr. Barr to come in and testify. That's not what this is about. What it is, is they want to lay the groundwork to try to impeach President Trump.
And quite frankly, they are testing the waters to see if it works if the American people would support that. And I just don't think the American people are going to support that.
MACCALLUM: You know, one of the things Senator Klobuchar said this tonight as well, there is this sort of different language is being used with regards to obstruction. It says where there were 10 instances of instruction in the report, but that's not really the case.
There was evidence laid out and then at the end of each of those 10, it sort of says, you know, but we didn't actually find anything in the end on Carter Page and the like. Is that correct or no?
BIGGS: No, you are exactly right. And even as they go through it and they iterate these 10 incidents, they always conclude that there is no obstruction there. They declined to prosecute. They declined to investigate further.
MACCALLUM: Yes.
BIGGS: So that's the problem with this.
MACCALLUM: Correct.
BIGGS: Yes.
MACCALLUM: Well.
BIGGS: Yes.
MACCALLUM: All right. Representative Biggs, thank you very much. Good to have you here tonight, sir.
BIGGS: Thanks, Martha.
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