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SCHULTZ: I want to bring in Congressman John Garamendi on this discussion conversation. He wants to respond to this. Congressman your thoughts on the numbers that are starting to show up on medicare and how Jeb Bush wants to get rid of it and privatize it.
REP. JOHN GARAMENDI, (D) CALIFORNIA: I just heard some of the most outstanding misinformation I`ve heard in a long, long time. Ed, we have seen medical cost rate increases dramatically decline. They`re still increases but they`re about half the inflation prior to the Affordable Care Act. Medicare Part D is not a private organization. That is a government program in which unfortunately the Republicans in the early 2000 set up Medicare Part D and handed over billions and billions of dollars to the drug companies because there is no competition for the price of drugs. The federal government is simply a price taker. It cannot -- it cannot even negotiate the price of the drugs in Medicare Part D. That is a fact.
SHEFFIELD: How can Part D came in well below budget by the magnitude of many billions?
GARAMENDI: Wait a minute, wait a minute. OK.
SHEFFIELD: It was because of competition. Competition because of the plans --
GARAMENDI: I`m sorry, but you don`t win an argument by keeping talking. Listen carefully. Medicare Part D expenses are exploding. Most recently in this week`s newspaper in reports this week, Medicare Part D, prices are going through the roof. Doctors around the nation are complaining. Cancer doctors, oncologists are saying it is unaffordable because there is no competition. It is all whatever the drug companies want to charge. That is a fact. And the most and the single part of...
SHEFFIELD: And doing just fine before the Affordable Care Act. The approval rating of seniors. Medicare Part D unrolled in 2006.
GARAMENDI: Yeah.
SHEFFIELD: The approval of seniors was in the 90s and now the Affordable Care Act has completely disrupted the entire insurance market.
GARAMENDI: No, you`re talking about.
SHEFFIELD: I lost my doctor. The president lied to me.
GARAMENDI: Madam you`re talking about two very different things.
SHEFFIELD: He said that could keep my doctor but I did not get to keep my doctor because of this president.
GARAMENDI: Sound bites are not going to win an argument.
SHEFFIELD: Are you saying my insurance plan is sound bites.
SCHULTZ: All right, we got leave it there. We`re up against the clock. We`ll have you both back.
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